Comments on: Waiting for OOXML http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/ A weblog by Charles-H. Schulz. Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:53:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Boycott Novell » Has Broken OOXML Faltered Again and Missed an Important Deadline? http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-746 Boycott Novell » Has Broken OOXML Faltered Again and Missed an Important Deadline? Sun, 04 May 2008 06:11:29 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/#comment-746 [...] wrote about it less than a week ago and now comes the update, followed by some sad homour. At the time this post is being written, there is still no news of [...] [...] wrote about it less than a week ago and now comes the update, followed by some sad homour. At the time this post is being written, there is still no news of [...]

]]> By: Charles http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-742 Charles Fri, 02 May 2008 15:34:43 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/#comment-742 Rob, I am interested, please send it to me! Thanks, Charles. Rob,

I am interested, please send it to me!

Thanks,
Charles.

]]> By: Rob Weir http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-741 Rob Weir Fri, 02 May 2008 15:23:27 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/#comment-741 Charles, Something even stranger to note. For a brief time yesterday, the "final" text of OOXML was posted on the SC34 web site. This was the post-BRM version with all the edits, the version that was due a month after the BRM. It was only up for a few hours before it was pulled for unknown reasons. But it was there long enough for me to download. Let me know if anyone wants a copy. Charles, Something even stranger to note. For a brief time yesterday, the “final” text of OOXML was posted on the SC34 web site. This was the post-BRM version with all the edits, the version that was due a month after the BRM. It was only up for a few hours before it was pulled for unknown reasons. But it was there long enough for me to download. Let me know if anyone wants a copy.

]]> By: Charles http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-740 Charles Fri, 02 May 2008 15:04:30 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/#comment-740 libervisco, I think that we still have to see the death or demise of ODF. To be sure, there are strong pressures against it, but instead of trying to make a point of theory, I'd just mention real "business cases" as they call it that show that ODF isn't going anywhere but up: - South Africa, India, Italy, Norway, Russia, Brazil, Argentina, Korea... And that's on a country level. I don't list the regions (Extremadura...), the companies and the administrations adopting it now, even after OOXML was stamped as an ISO standard. So I think the future will definitely be interesting. But think of the ISO story as nothing more - and nothing less- than a bloody draw. Thanks! Charles. libervisco,

I think that we still have to see the death or demise of ODF. To be sure, there are strong pressures against it, but instead of trying to make a point of theory, I’d just mention real “business cases” as they call it that show that ODF isn’t going anywhere but up:
- South Africa, India, Italy, Norway, Russia, Brazil, Argentina, Korea… And that’s on a country level. I don’t list the regions (Extremadura…), the companies and the administrations adopting it now, even after OOXML was stamped as an ISO standard. So I think the future will definitely be interesting. But think of the ISO story as nothing more – and nothing less- than a bloody draw.

Thanks!
Charles.

]]> By: libervisco http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-739 libervisco Fri, 02 May 2008 14:50:08 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/02/waiting-for-ooxml/#comment-739 Nice one! I could almost imagine this being sang as an angry sarcastic sounding kinda rock track with the guitar going really crazy by the end... Though.. I'm an electronic music guy.. :P I happen to have seen Bruce Perens say on <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=536800&cid=23225770" rel="nofollow">slashdot</a> how "Microsoft essentially killed OpenDocument" by making it "redundant as a standard and showed that people who lobby for its use lose their jobs for their efforts". I really hope he's wrong. It can be said the other way around, OOXML was made redundant long ago by ODF which is a standard too. And if that's not good enough (might not be, actually), then screw ISO, let the market ultimately decide which is better - meaning, the battle for market mind share must be continued. ODF has inherent advantages that must be known. But I'm preaching to the choir.. Just.. a word of encouragement. :) Cheers Nice one! I could almost imagine this being sang as an angry sarcastic sounding kinda rock track with the guitar going really crazy by the end…

Though.. I’m an electronic music guy.. :P

I happen to have seen Bruce Perens say on slashdot how “Microsoft essentially killed OpenDocument” by making it “redundant as a standard and showed that people who lobby for its use lose their jobs for their efforts”.

I really hope he’s wrong. It can be said the other way around, OOXML was made redundant long ago by ODF which is a standard too. And if that’s not good enough (might not be, actually), then screw ISO, let the market ultimately decide which is better – meaning, the battle for market mind share must be continued. ODF has inherent advantages that must be known.

But I’m preaching to the choir.. Just.. a word of encouragement. :)

Cheers

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