Comments on: News of the Weird (April issue) http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/ A weblog by Charles-H. Schulz. Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:51:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Andre http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1878 Andre Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:36:20 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1878 Concerning Vint Cerf, that the only report I found so far of the Conf: http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/vint-cerf-and-the-cloud/ Was a pity that we weren't there because I still would like to ask: "Were are all the Geneva videos gone?" @quero: That is the expected way things go, Charles. though not too expensive to get the Schröder-Chirac meeting a bit result buzz in the press. It was all 2005. Things are different now. Concerning Vint Cerf, that the only report I found so far of the Conf:
http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/vint-cerf-and-the-cloud/

Was a pity that we weren’t there because I still would like to ask: “Were are all the Geneva videos gone?”

@quero: That is the expected way things go, Charles. though not too expensive to get the Schröder-Chirac meeting a bit result buzz in the press. It was all 2005. Things are different now.

]]> By: Charles http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1877 Charles Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:02:53 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1877 I know about it, and the only thing that happened is that Thomson took almost all of the money (that's what the press said) and the rest went to a french startup, exalead.com who now is a MS puppet and is proprietary. 100 million Euros or so gone with the wind. I know about it, and the only thing that happened is that Thomson took almost all of the money (that’s what the press said) and the rest went to a french startup, exalead.com who now is a MS puppet and is proprietary. 100 million Euros or so gone with the wind.

]]> By: Andre http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1876 Andre Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:39:42 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1876 Charles, here's the French search engine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaero Of course it didn't take off... Charles, here’s the French search engine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaero

Of course it didn’t take off…

]]> By: James Carpenter http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1875 James Carpenter Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:48:28 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1875 To the statement "It seems ZERO public comments were received"; I am not sure when the window of opportunity to comment was but I am a US citizen and I did send an email to info@ansi.org I don't see that it mattered in the votes, but I did comment. To the statement “It seems ZERO public comments were received”; I am not sure when the window of opportunity to comment was but I am a US citizen and I did send an email to info@ansi.org I don’t see that it mattered in the votes, but I did comment.

]]> By: IBM Does Not Support OOXML | All about MICROSOFT http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1874 IBM Does Not Support OOXML | All about MICROSOFT Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:24:36 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1874 [...] is another explanation of what goes on here: IBM votes for OOXML at the ANSI (the U.S. standards body) and the Microsoft-sponsored mob [...] [...] is another explanation of what goes on here: IBM votes for OOXML at the ANSI (the U.S. standards body) and the Microsoft-sponsored mob [...]

]]> By: IBM Does Not Support OOXML | Boycott Novell http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1873 IBM Does Not Support OOXML | Boycott Novell Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:13:02 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1873 [...] is another explanation of what goes on here: IBM votes for OOXML at the ANSI (the U.S. standards body) and the Microsoft-sponsored mob [...] [...] is another explanation of what goes on here: IBM votes for OOXML at the ANSI (the U.S. standards body) and the Microsoft-sponsored mob [...]

]]> By: Rob Weir http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1872 Rob Weir Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:31:32 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1872 Alex, I think we would all be interested in hearing how you would have stated the case for an exception and argued against transposing ISO/IEC 29500 into a national standard. -Rob Alex, I think we would all be interested in hearing how you would have stated the case for an exception and argued against transposing ISO/IEC 29500 into a national standard.

-Rob

]]> By: Charles http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1871 Charles Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:19:45 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1871 André, I will not be in Brussels tomorrow. Too bad, I am going to miss the Google conference, but hey, we have to speak: I also thought about some great idea, and I think they won't even what hits them when they'll see it coming. It's about the EASSCP (European Action for Software & Standards Committee Protocols), remember? André,
I will not be in Brussels tomorrow. Too bad, I am going to miss the Google conference, but hey, we have to speak: I also thought about some great idea, and I think they won’t even what hits them when they’ll see it coming. It’s about the EASSCP (European Action for Software & Standards Committee Protocols), remember?

]]> By: Andre http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1870 Andre Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:50:46 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1870 I am a bit suprised my the new rude or negative tunes you whistle, Charles. Same applies to Alex Brown and consorts. It all feels a bit weird with all the gossip. Alex Brown complains that IBM didn't vote a symbolic no?! Yes, says Rob Weir, that is the way it is always supposed to be. The implication is of course an internal battle. You did abide to controlled communication and now we observe a relaxation on the battle ground. Spring to attention! Let's better write about the important news as the ISA programme (unfortunately without explicit "open document exchange format" but that doesn't matter :-) ). After all they at the Commission caused the Open XML standardisation effort as I learned from Wikipedia (ha-ha). Charles, will you be in Brussels for the Google conference event tomorrow? I am very busy to finish a pending report and be next week I will be in Prague for a conference, so I won't make it Don't forget that ISO standardisation is just a means to an end. Don't slay the slain and keep focussed, I've some great ideas for action. I am a bit suprised my the new rude or negative tunes you whistle, Charles. Same applies to Alex Brown and consorts. It all feels a bit weird with all the gossip. Alex Brown complains that IBM didn’t vote a symbolic no?! Yes, says Rob Weir, that is the way it is always supposed to be. The implication is of course an internal battle.

You did abide to controlled communication and now we observe a relaxation on the battle ground. Spring to attention!

Let’s better write about the important news as the ISA programme (unfortunately without explicit “open document exchange format” but that doesn’t matter :-) ). After all they at the Commission caused the Open XML standardisation effort as I learned from Wikipedia (ha-ha).

Charles, will you be in Brussels for the Google conference event tomorrow? I am very busy to finish a pending report and be next week I will be in Prague for a conference, so I won’t make it

Don’t forget that ISO standardisation is just a means to an end. Don’t slay the slain and keep focussed, I’ve some great ideas for action.

]]> By: Charles http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1869 Charles Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:44:14 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/04/21/news-of-the-weird-april-issue/#comment-1869 Alex is right. National transposition is a procedural relic. We should get the specs right out of software vendors and just skip this standardization crap that only justifies to pay useless consultants whose status is construed as some kind of impartial judge. This kind of failed processes have led us to believe that standards and norms could be somehow trusted; as it unfortunately turns out, it stops to be true when strongly applied pressure by one large private monopoly meets the weak morals of the ones in charge of ensuring the process is being duly respected. Thank you Alex, for spelling out the truth. Your lack of impartiality and your strange behaviour during the OOXML standardization process have clarified how poorly qualified you are at patronizing others and lecturing on the ISO and other standards bodies' processes. I wish you good luck for your next job at Microsoft. Alex is right. National transposition is a procedural relic.
We should get the specs right out of software vendors and just skip this standardization crap that only justifies to pay useless consultants whose status is construed as some kind of impartial judge.

This kind of failed processes have led us to believe that standards and norms could be somehow trusted; as it unfortunately turns out, it stops to be true when strongly applied pressure by one large private monopoly meets the weak morals of the ones in charge of ensuring the process is being duly respected.

Thank you Alex, for spelling out the truth. Your lack of impartiality and your strange behaviour during the OOXML standardization process have clarified how poorly qualified you are at patronizing others and lecturing on the ISO and other standards bodies’ processes.
I wish you good luck for your next job at Microsoft.

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