Comments on: ODF with no excuse http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/ A weblog by Charles-H. Schulz. Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:51:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Daniel Powter » QTI http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1926 Daniel Powter » QTI Sun, 10 May 2009 11:48:28 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1926 [...] Moved by Freedom - Powered by Standards » Blog Archive » ODF with … [...] [...] Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards » Blog Archive » ODF with … [...]

]]> By: Stephane Rodriguez http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1921 Stephane Rodriguez Sat, 09 May 2009 19:12:24 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1921 Microsoft DOES interoperate with ODF, just they have done their way thanks to a poor interoperability specification that they have used to its full extent. That is the problem when you are talking about "interoperability". Interoperability is a long word but is too short to convey the real meaning. Therefore whenever Microsoft talks about interoperability with no more qualification, this is just FUD. It is going to be very hard to change this. Microsoft DOES interoperate with ODF, just they have done their way thanks to a poor interoperability specification that they have used to its full extent.

That is the problem when you are talking about “interoperability”. Interoperability is a long word but is too short to convey the real meaning. Therefore whenever Microsoft talks about interoperability with no more qualification, this is just FUD.

It is going to be very hard to change this.

]]> By: Capitão Óbvio http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1918 Capitão Óbvio Sat, 09 May 2009 09:55:14 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1918 I hope the European Comission is watching this... Oh, and don't forget the suit against TomTom for trying to interoperate using FAT32... I hope the European Comission is watching this…

Oh, and don’t forget the suit against TomTom for trying to interoperate using FAT32…

]]> By: paul -theunverified http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1915 paul -theunverified Fri, 08 May 2009 23:07:25 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1915 Redmond is trying to sabotage ODF. If ODF breaks, the Windows customers (who might be less likely to know very much about open source) will be left with the impression that open source == poor quality. Therefore, don't use open source. If anyone from the DOJ is still paying attention, add this to the list of recent anticompetitive behaviors from Redmond. And Judge Kollar-Kotelly-whatever-additional-lastname, how about some real disciplinary action this time? Redmond is trying to sabotage ODF. If ODF breaks, the Windows customers (who might be less likely to know very much about open source) will be left with the impression that open source == poor quality. Therefore, don’t use open source. If anyone from the DOJ is still paying attention, add this to the list of recent anticompetitive behaviors from Redmond. And Judge Kollar-Kotelly-whatever-additional-lastname, how about some real disciplinary action this time?

]]> By: Jeff http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1910 Jeff Fri, 08 May 2009 16:35:49 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1910 Take a look at the later entries in Rob Weir's blog; Office 2007 SP2 is definitely producing documents which do not conform to the ODF standard. There are examples of the problems listed on his site. Take a look at the later entries in Rob Weir’s blog; Office 2007 SP2 is definitely producing documents which do not conform to the ODF standard. There are examples of the problems listed on his site.

]]> By: speedbuggy http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1908 speedbuggy Fri, 08 May 2009 15:47:21 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1908 Thank goodness that Sun already released a fairly good compatible ODF implementation. Only shows M$FT can't even copy someone elses work right !! Thank goodness that Sun already released a fairly good compatible ODF implementation. Only shows M$FT can’t even copy someone elses work right !!

]]> By: mungewell http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1907 mungewell Fri, 08 May 2009 15:32:24 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1907 Let me pose a question.... If you are writing a document reader/writer to be compatible with other applications, wouldn't you perform at least some testing with the other software? Given that problems reported by Rob Weir (ie. the inability to read a simple formula) are so servere, it would be absolutely un-excusable if MS's test department didn't find it. Therefore the only logic conclusion is that the 'issues' are there on purpose. Mungewell. Let me pose a question….
If you are writing a document reader/writer to be compatible with other applications, wouldn’t you perform at least some testing with the other software?

Given that problems reported by Rob Weir (ie. the inability to read a simple formula) are so servere, it would be absolutely un-excusable if MS’s test department didn’t find it.

Therefore the only logic conclusion is that the ‘issues’ are there on purpose.
Mungewell.

]]> By: Embrace, Extend, and Microsoft Wants to Toss IBM Out of ODF | All about MICROSOFT http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1902 Embrace, Extend, and Microsoft Wants to Toss IBM Out of ODF | All about MICROSOFT Thu, 07 May 2009 01:21:30 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1902 [...] too is already weighing in. If we are to believe several reports who all link to Rob Weir’s own thorough review , Microsoft [...] [...] too is already weighing in. If we are to believe several reports who all link to Rob Weir’s own thorough review , Microsoft [...]

]]> By: Embrace, Extend, and Microsoft Wants to Toss IBM Out of ODF | Boycott Novell http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-1901 Embrace, Extend, and Microsoft Wants to Toss IBM Out of ODF | Boycott Novell Thu, 07 May 2009 01:09:00 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/06/odf-with-no-excuse/#comment-1901 [...] too is already weighing in. If we are to believe several reports who all link to Rob Weir’s own thorough review , Microsoft [...] [...] too is already weighing in. If we are to believe several reports who all link to Rob Weir’s own thorough review , Microsoft [...]

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