Comments on: Should we waterboard Rob Weir? And other crucial questions… http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/ A weblog by Charles-H. Schulz. Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:51:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Charles http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2230 Charles Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:12:58 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-2230 Wouter, What the hell are you talking about? By the way, how's your Sharepoint and Office business doing? Wouter,

What the hell are you talking about?
By the way, how’s your Sharepoint and Office business doing?

]]> By: Wouter van Vugt http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2229 Wouter van Vugt Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:48:07 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-2229 Charles, do you feel that blogging is mature then? You choose this route over informing the TC. As an outsider it would appear that your arguments do not hold, that you know this, and that is the reason why you blog instead of discuss. Seems rather childish to me. ps. I too feel Rob is a very bad chair of this group. He is quite clearly not someone members believe in. He focuses on downplaying Open XML instead of focusing on ODF. Great chair. If he would have spent an equal amount of time writing normative text as he blogs, the spec would not be in such a poor state it is in now. Wouter Charles,

do you feel that blogging is mature then? You choose this route over informing the TC. As an outsider it would appear that your arguments do not hold, that you know this, and that is the reason why you blog instead of discuss.
Seems rather childish to me.

ps. I too feel Rob is a very bad chair of this group. He is quite clearly not someone members believe in. He focuses on downplaying Open XML instead of focusing on ODF. Great chair. If he would have spent an equal amount of time writing normative text as he blogs, the spec would not be in such a poor state it is in now.

Wouter

]]> By: La Cofradía Digital » Blog Archive » Microsoft intenta sabotear ODF desde adentro http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1957 La Cofradía Digital » Blog Archive » Microsoft intenta sabotear ODF desde adentro Thu, 14 May 2009 17:57:40 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-1957 [...] un par de blogs que ya estan circulando me entero que Microsoft aunque aparentemente ha aceptado a ODF como el [...] [...] un par de blogs que ya estan circulando me entero que Microsoft aunque aparentemente ha aceptado a ODF como el [...]

]]> By: Avatud dokumendiformaadid » Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 ODF tugi on täielik fiasko http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1931 Avatud dokumendiformaadid » Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 ODF tugi on täielik fiasko Mon, 11 May 2009 10:42:30 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-1931 [...] now attempts to sabotage ODF Should we waterboard Rob Weir? And other crucial questions… On the Microsoft Office ODF support fiasco A Few Facts As Antidote Against Microsoft’s [...] [...] now attempts to sabotage ODF Should we waterboard Rob Weir? And other crucial questions… On the Microsoft Office ODF support fiasco A Few Facts As Antidote Against Microsoft’s [...]

]]> By: Charles http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1922 Charles Sat, 09 May 2009 20:02:25 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-1922 Doug, What do you suggest that I do at the ODF TC? Bring up complaints against MS? Surely that's not a very mature way to handle our problem, isn't it? Doug,

What do you suggest that I do at the ODF TC? Bring up complaints against MS? Surely that’s not a very mature way to handle our problem, isn’t it?

]]> By: Microsoft ‘Patents’ ODF Whilst Also Harming It | All about MICROSOFT http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1920 Microsoft ‘Patents’ ODF Whilst Also Harming It | All about MICROSOFT Sat, 09 May 2009 10:20:46 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-1920 [...] of arrogance, Charles wrote a long post about Microsoft’s arrogant attack on Rob Weir. These are very interesting times for ODF and [...] [...] of arrogance, Charles wrote a long post about Microsoft’s arrogant attack on Rob Weir. These are very interesting times for ODF and [...]

]]> By: Microsoft ‘Patents’ ODF Whilst Also Harming It | Boycott Novell http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1919 Microsoft ‘Patents’ ODF Whilst Also Harming It | Boycott Novell Sat, 09 May 2009 10:09:24 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-1919 [...] of arrogance, Charles wrote a long post about Microsoft's arrogant attack on Rob Weir. These are very interesting times for ODF and Open [...] [...] of arrogance, Charles wrote a long post about Microsoft’s arrogant attack on Rob Weir. These are very interesting times for ODF and Open [...]

]]> By: Doug Mahugh http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1911 Doug Mahugh Fri, 08 May 2009 16:36:33 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-1911 Charles, if you really believe that "Microsoft members and its proxies were actively discussing and refusing everything that was on the agenda, delaying ODF 1.2 and demanding an a minima conformance level in an aggressive tone," then you should do the right thing and bring it up in the TC, so that the TC can decide what to do about it. I'll watch for your email to the TC on this matter. Your insinuations about Dennis Hamilton are outrageous. Dennis is an extremely ethical hard-working individual, beholden to nobody. He and I often have frank disagreements on many topics, and he most definitely has never coordinated any of his statements in the ODF TC with me or anyone else at Microsoft. Charles, if you really believe that “Microsoft members and its proxies were actively discussing and refusing everything that was on the agenda, delaying ODF 1.2 and demanding an a minima conformance level in an aggressive tone,” then you should do the right thing and bring it up in the TC, so that the TC can decide what to do about it. I’ll watch for your email to the TC on this matter.

Your insinuations about Dennis Hamilton are outrageous. Dennis is an extremely ethical hard-working individual, beholden to nobody. He and I often have frank disagreements on many topics, and he most definitely has never coordinated any of his statements in the ODF TC with me or anyone else at Microsoft.

]]> By: Should we waterboard Rob Weir? And other crucial questions… | http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1909 Should we waterboard Rob Weir? And other crucial questions… | Fri, 08 May 2009 16:13:19 +0000 http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/08/should-we-waterboard-rob-weir-and-other-crucial-questions/#comment-1909 [...] here:  Should we waterboard Rob Weir? And other crucial questions… Who Else Wants Free Open Source Software for [...] [...] here:  Should we waterboard Rob Weir? And other crucial questions… Who Else Wants Free Open Source Software for [...]

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